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  The Old Man
« on: November 28, 2011, 07:31:18 AM » by Casey Powers
The Old Man

See
how he hobbles
little skip and jump
his persevering rivers
flowing uphill
carry a battleship
to fight
wounded pride

as he crosses the lot
at the big department store
amid the gasps of irritation
from other shoppers

admire him
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 06:58:43 PM » by Rick Stansberger
Why the capital letters?  Seems eighteenth-century in a poem more modern than that.  I get a sense that there's a touching scene here, though, and I hope you stay with it.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 07:06:59 PM » by Casey Powers
I just played around some more with it...Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't think I can get much more out of this as I don't know any other way to put it right now.  I changed the capts and added some, but I might have made it worse.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 09:24:42 PM » by Rick Stansberger
Maybe it just needs a rest.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 08:33:55 AM » by Casey Powers
I think a refreshing rest would be nice for my tired old man...whew
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 09:11:47 AM » by Roger Fizzerton
Casey,

Nice work, and I love the message - I hate the way old people are not often respected - particularly in western societies.

Roger
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 09:19:01 AM » by Tom Riordan
I love the way old people aren't respected
in Western societies. Why should they be?
I'm one of them - and believe me, I know.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 04:39:42 PM » by Casey Powers
You surely don't look that old in your little picture there Tom.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 05:16:10 PM » by Tom Riordan
Oh, that photo from 1960? LOL.
For me, the vig in this poem is the mix of metaphors:

See how he hobbles
little skip and jump,
his persevering rivers
flowing uphill,
carrying one battleship
to fight
wounded pride

as he crosses the lot
at the big department store
amid the gasps of irritation
from other shoppers.


I'd maybe play with that a bit more. Tom
The Old Man

See how he hobbles
little skip and jump
Glad not to move that way
with feeble spirit
but behold his
determination
emulate his
persevering rivers
flowing uphill
carrying one battleship
to fight
wounded pride
on his own
as he crosses the lot
at the big department store
I admire him
Amid the gasps of irritation
from other
potential shoppers


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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 05:47:33 PM » by Casey Powers
okay thanks...and if that photo is from 1960 I can see how you can relate...lol
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 06:36:27 PM » by Roger Fizzerton
I love the way old people aren't respected
in Western societies. Why should they be?
I'm one of them - and believe me, I know.

Tom - since when was 58 old! If you think that, you must bed suffering for permature... sen premature... sin ...you know that thingy when you cant remember things...

Casey just a note to offer not advice (unless you ask) but encouragement - this is a fine sentiment that needs expressing more often.

Regards,

Roger

 
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 07:07:50 PM » by Tom Riordan
I'm f***ing old enough!  And I'm not getting any more respectworthy as I age, I can tell you that!
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 07:22:38 PM » by Roger Fizzerton
I'm f***ing old enough!  And I'm not getting any more respectworthy as I age, I can tell you that!
LOL!  But are'nt we in danger of confusing respect with reverence? And why would you be getting any less respectworthy as you age? What are you doing that's so bad? Dare one ask???! Can you send instructions?

Roger
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 07:41:38 PM » by Casey Powers
oh my goodness gracious
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 01:33:18 AM » by Roger Fizzerton
oh my goodness gracious

Casey,

Sorry! Getting carried away! But looking at the poem again, have you considered laking out L3 and L4?  It seems (to me) to read better that way.  Oh and what about changing 'one' to 'a' in L10?

Regard,

Roger
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 08:59:44 AM » by Casey Powers
Thanks Roger and Tom for trying to help me.  I made the suggested changes, but something falls flat for me and I don't know what it is; however, it is much improved.  I say that I am old all of the time too and I am not really old, but I think many of us feel that way at times.  My old man, now he was old for real (prob 80) and tough.  Seeing him brought tear to my eyes.
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 09:09:06 AM » by silent lotus
The Old Man

See how he hobbles
little skip and jump
his persevering rivers
flowing uphill
carry a battleship
to fight
wounded pride

as he crosses the lot
at the big department store
Amid the gasps of irritation
from other shoppers




dear Casey

how about looking at the title rather than the text
& perhaps a little spacing to slow things down

try a bit more of a painterly approach

silent lotus





The Dignitary Of Age


See
how he hobbles

little skip and jump

his persevering rivers
flowing uphill
carry a battleship
to fight

wounded pride

as he crosses the lot
at the big department store
Amid the gasps of irritation
from other shoppers



`


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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 09:10:03 AM » by Tom Riordan
"Amid" or "amid"?
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 09:56:59 AM » by Roger Fizzerton
Casey,

Yes it does read better, but I see what you mean.

To me, the 'I admire him' was critical, and gave the original it's power and lift - without it there is the danger of the tone being one of pity only.

Roger
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2012, 12:27:51 PM » by Casey Powers
Thank you Roger.  I have changed the old man some.  I think it is better...
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  Re: The Old Man
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 02:46:01 PM » by Casey Powers
There are comments on here that I somehow never saw...thank you Silent Lotus, Tom, and Roger for helping me out here.  I don't know about the title.  I am thinking.
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