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  Outcast
« on: September 08, 2010, 03:44:24 AM » by James Carver
his worth
smoke in the nostrils
of humanity

cast out
a bastard son
left to rot
on a puke-invested sidewalk

he still wore the same smile
when last I saw him
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 08:01:02 AM » by Tom Riordan
I don't get "worth," James, and I think you can cut "like a bastard son" and maybe the "how odd" line too. Tom
he worth
like smoke in the nostrils
of humanity

cast out like a bastard son
left to rot
on a puke-invested sidewalk

how odd
he still wore the same smile
when I saw him last

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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 09:22:53 AM » by Tiko Lewis
maybe he = his?
agree with Tom's assessment, leaving:

his worth
like smoke in the nostrils
of humanity

left to rot
on a puke-invested sidewalk

he still wore the same smile
when I saw him last


thanks,

tiko
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 10:03:04 AM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
The smile isn't established as his emblem in the last stanza.

I think it's just a matter of construct.  I also think the 'how odd' needs to stay
since N has established his attitude in the previous two stanzas.


Here's how the last line works for me:

How odd
I always find him with a smile.

Maggie
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 11:17:51 AM » by StellaR


vivid colours, James
as I read the poem aloud, I removed the word like from the first two stanzas. smoother for me. it is your piece, so you make the final cuts. I also think his works better than he.

his worth
smoke in the nostrils
of humanity

cast out
a bastard son
left to rot
on a puke-invested sidewalk

how odd
he still wore the same smile
when I saw him last



just my opinion, James.
I love the poem with or without changes

Stella
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 12:49:40 PM » by milner place
Agree with Stella's amendments, James. For me, I'd keep the last line as it denotes a sort of timelessness, though maybe it could read easier as 'when I last saw him'. Much enjoyed.

milner
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 12:50:24 PM » by James Carver
thanks tom,tiko and stella for the comments and suggestions
definitely an improvement
much appreciated

cheers

james
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 12:58:20 PM » by James Carver
thanks milner

the changes are in effect

cheers

james
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 10:35:52 PM » by Tiko Lewis
enjoyed the changes.
very clear and direct.

thanks,

tiko
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 02:00:17 AM » by James Carver
thanks tiko

cheers

james
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  Re: Outcast
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2010, 09:50:05 AM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
After the chock full stanzas, 1 & 2, how about something a little simpler?

his worth
smoke in the nostrils
of humanity

cast out
a bastard son
left to rot
on a puke-invested sidewalk

and yet he wears a smile
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