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September 05, 2010, 02:37:15 PM »
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StellaR
pitched
impelled
upstream
struggling
to keep
head
above the rush
below the radar
Stella Read
September 5, 2010
1st revision
pitched
we float
upstream
in unseen currents
struggle
to keep
heads
above the rush
below the radar
original:
complications
pitched into
we float
upstream
in unseen currents
a struggle
to keep
head
above the rush
or below
the radar
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Re: complications
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September 05, 2010, 04:49:55 PM »
by
Sue Lozynskyj
Quote from: StellaR on September 05, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
pitched into
we float
upstream
in unseen currents
a struggle
to keep
head
above the rush
or below
the radar
Liking this Stella on the 2nd read. Iwonder if changes to the small words might tighten
pitched in
to
we float
upstream
in unseen currents
a
struggle
to keep
head
s
above the rush
or
and
below
the radar
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Re: complications
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September 05, 2010, 05:47:21 PM »
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larry jordan
Stella, wonderful image. I like what Sue suggested, brings the immediacy in the poem to the tip of one's tongue. Excellent.
larry
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September 05, 2010, 07:21:54 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Floating upstream has such strong feel to it, Stella, whether read as sinister or good-magical. Tom
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September 05, 2010, 09:10:40 PM »
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StellaR
I had considered 'and' rather than 'or'. sue, your tweaks are great! will adopt them all or most of them, much obliged!
very kind of you, Larry. your review is greatly appreciated
merci, Tom. always interests me to know how another person views a particular image
Stella
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September 05, 2010, 09:31:00 PM »
by
maggie flanagan-wilkie
A thought, Stella.
pitched
we float
upstream
in unseen currents
struggle
to keep
heads
above the rush
below the radar
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September 05, 2010, 09:33:34 PM »
by
StellaR
perfect, maggie; wish I'd thought of it!
going to make the change
thanks
Stella
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September 06, 2010, 12:19:29 PM »
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Lynn Doiron
Much enjoyed, Stella.
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September 06, 2010, 03:41:53 PM »
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bodkin
I'm not really one for the "full of gaps" approach, but this rather striking...
Nice one.
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September 06, 2010, 03:56:18 PM »
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milner place
Very sure brush strokes, as ever, Stella. Excellent.
milner
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Re: complications
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September 07, 2010, 10:47:23 AM »
by
Tiko Lewis
enjoy the multiple
interpretations of pitched!
this is a wonderful read.
i enjoyed.
tiko
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Re: complications
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September 07, 2010, 11:34:16 AM »
by
Lynn Doiron
Stella, reading again, enjoying again. But today [feeling onery and picky, I guess] the radar end word and the two water references [upstream and rush] not quite in sync. Don't know what the answer is, or if any answer is needed beyond what you already have. Just sayin' ...
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September 07, 2010, 11:35:21 AM »
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Tom Riordan
"below the wind"?
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September 07, 2010, 01:55:44 PM »
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maggie flanagan-wilkie
Not the wind, Tom.
Stella, what about something edgier, staying above a second time:
above the rush
above the obvious
I think it's too short a piece for another water reference ; a word that suits your intent can bring motion to line like the iambic feet in above the obvious.
Maggie
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September 08, 2010, 11:06:06 AM »
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StellaR
thank you, Lynn, bodkin, milner, tiko for kind replies.
also Lynn, Tom and Maggie for revisiting
Lynn, you're right to challenge. I hate it when things have to make sense! that said, I've given it some thought and wonder if changing the opening to 'hooked' rather than pitched would solve the problem. will look again at your suggestions Tom and Maggie. the poem has to the feeling of being pulled along but still wanting to remain hidden or below the radar.
thanks again for all replies and suggestions
Stella
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Re: complications
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September 09, 2010, 07:32:09 AM »
by
Geoff B
Hi Stella,
I love the image of "above the rush/below the radar"
Surreal, but frightening - I felt like I was in one of those Indiana Jones scenes where the water is rising and the
ceiling is looming, on the one hand, and in "1984" on the other!
"Floating", as has been said, offers a sinister possibility, but IMHO it is too slow when compared to "rush" - I hope
that makes sense :)
Geoff
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Re: complications
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September 09, 2010, 09:48:23 AM »
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maggie flanagan-wilkie
Without going into the definitions of the words hooked and pitched,
the images of each word alone taken in context with the poem should,
I think, Stella, convince you pitched is the word to go with. Maggie
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September 09, 2010, 02:47:38 PM »
by
StellaR
hi there, Geoff and Maggie. I wrestled with this one a little more but decided a day might make things clearer. will return to it later. thank you both for careful reading and suggestions.
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September 09, 2010, 02:49:52 PM »
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Tom Riordan
There's tension between "float" and "struggle", increasing curiosity about the force propelling N upstream.
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September 09, 2010, 02:55:03 PM »
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StellaR
that is my dilemma
going to try to solve it now, Tom
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September 09, 2010, 04:47:37 PM »
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larry jordan
Stella, thought I'd add to the gallery of cacophonous voices. The poem works for this reader as is. The differences about water images, radar etc. are simply the images you came up with and they do exactly what the poem is asking them to do. However, (don't you just love that) 'pitched' is perfect for what the poem concludes, but I wonder if omitting 'in' is keeping the poem in the road. By itself, the implications are that the subject is pitching about in the current, an image that seems unnecessary to state since we are floating upstream and in my mind that would be anything but calm. With 'in' the inference is less ambiguous and we see/feel the subject as not being in control, pitched in by an external force. Okay, now that's whole lot more than you cared about for this poem, but I submit that the number of voices whose interest has been piqued by this wonderful little write indicate its value.
larry
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September 10, 2010, 08:34:19 PM »
by
StellaR
always like to hear from you, Larry. I worked at this one and then threw it aside. now I'm thinking it isn't the word pitched that's confusing but floated, as Tom suggests. I'm going to make another change.
hoping someone will let me know if it helps or hinders the piece.
Stella
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