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  waterboard
« on: September 01, 2010, 10:33:07 AM » by Tiko Lewis





mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
of
your
second
breakfast
taco

patience
lies
dregged

in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

ready
your
account

the
wax
is
cooled

and
positioned
to
record








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...i don't eat jelly beans afterward.

  Re: waterboarding
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 10:37:37 AM » by Tom Riordan
really like the images of congealing in 2nd half of poem, Tiko, how the recording wax gives the taco drippings weight. Tom
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  Re: waterboarding
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 10:40:42 AM » by Tiko Lewis

the
chalk
moved
up
the
wall

down
the
hands

of
the
little
girl's
statue

patience
died

in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
from
the
last
breakfast
taco

ready
your
account

the
wax
has
cooled

and
is
positioned
to
record



having some issues with verb tenses in this one.  
i'm trying to relay it as a monolog, giving an account
of what's happened and what's to come.  any
advice on shaping it is appreciated.

made some changes based on your comments.

thanks,

tiko


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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 11:31:50 AM » by Tom Riordan
This simpler version reads better as speech, outloud or thought. I love how it switches the position of power.

"dregged" for "drowned" occurs to me as maybe worth considering.

I didn't understand the chalk lines but they were intriguing.

mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
of
your
second
breakfast
taco

patience
lies
drowned

in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

ready
your
account

the
wax
is
cooled

and is
positioned
to
record






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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 11:37:08 AM » by Tiko Lewis
like the change to dreg. 
honestly, the chalk lines
added nothing, but i liked
them, too. :D  they were
just part of the writing process.
but, i don't think they added
anything to the write, but i
could be wrong. 

thanks for coming back. 

tiko
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 11:54:55 AM » by Tom Riordan
maybe something else with the chalk lines??
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 12:54:19 PM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
The tense anomaly in your draft was bugging me, Tiko.

Here's some messing. Maggie

mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
of
your
second
breakfast
taco

patience

reduced
to
dregs
in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

readies
your
account

the
wax
has
cooled

and
in
position
to
record

your
chalk
line

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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2010, 11:50:49 PM » by Tom Riordan
Tiko, I've gone back and forth, first reading the N as the torture victim, but with the chalk outline in last S, it swings back and suggests the N is the torturer. A interesting dilemma! Tom
mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
of
your
second
breakfast
taco

patience
lies
dregged

in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

ready
your
account

the
wax
is
cooled

and
positioned
to
record

your
chalk
outline
already
drawn







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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 12:06:43 AM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
Maybe just outline, Tiko.
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 05:38:28 AM » by milner place
Love the slow movement here, Tiko.

milner
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 01:09:07 PM » by Lynn Doiron
tiko, also enjoying this. 
one way or another [can't say why] the opening word of mercy niggles.  when i swap mercy for patience, allowing patience its swim and mercy its cup-bottom dregs --- the flow seems, maybe, easier to the ready your account and what follows. 

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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 11:02:54 AM » by Tiko Lewis
Tom/Maggie,

i will try just outline to see how
that plays.

Milner,
thanks.

Lynn,

i like the suggestion and will try it out.

thanks,

tiko
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 02:04:35 PM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
Swapping mercy out for patience just made the opening dull as dust for me, Tiko.
Read it out loud both ways. Listen to what mercy does to the opening stanza.

Listen to how patience manipulates dregged as opposed to mercy.

Maggie
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 09:20:24 AM » by Tiko Lewis
Swapping mercy out for patience just made the opening dull as dust for me, Tiko.
Read it out loud both ways. Listen to what mercy does to the opening stanza.

Listen to how patience manipulates dregged as opposed to mercy.

Maggie

i can see what you're saying. 

thanks,

tiko
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 11:21:38 AM » by StellaR



I enjoyed reading the replies and noting the edits. will return again, tiko
what is posted at the moment is very effective


Stella
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 10:36:11 PM » by Tiko Lewis
thanks, Stella.

tiko
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 06:54:56 PM » by Tom Riordan
Tiko, as I said, I like reading this as addressed to the torturer, so I'd leave that last S off, ending strongly on "positioned to record" -- just me? -- dunno. Tom
mercy
swims

in
the
drippings
of
your
second
breakfast
taco

patience
lies
dregged

in
the
bottom
of
that
cup
of
coffee

ready
your
account

the
wax
is
cooled

and
positioned
to
record

your
outline
already
drawn
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2010, 07:19:56 PM » by Tiko Lewis
Tiko, as I said, I like reading this as addressed to the torturer, so I'd leave that last S off, ending strongly on "positioned to record" -- just me? -- dunno. Tom

when i consider it according your interpretation, the reading is stronger.
the statement and the scene gets darker, more desperate.  i like it.
and as i believe in trying on things (outside of curried/yogurted/sour creamed
food and pink shirts), i'll give it a run. 

thanks for your interest in this being the best it can be.  i appreciate it.

tiko
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2010, 08:17:57 PM » by Tom Riordan
Well, if you're happy with it, I sure am, Tiko. to Picks. Tom
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  Re: waterboard
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2010, 12:06:52 AM » by Tiko Lewis
i am happy with it.  
the chalk outline just
seemed out of place
when you consider the
picture you presented to
me.  and, when it was
removed, it worked it's way
back to the title so well.  
the last stanza came across
as trying to do too much.

your suggestion was spot on,
and i'm happy to have received
it.  it's why i'm not shy about
trying things on.

thanks for the pick as well.  

tiko
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