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  32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« on: August 26, 2010, 12:39:37 PM » by Tom Riordan
"The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing
but abstraction, Tom. Once you give it definition, edges enter
the picture. Genesis describes a time when there only was water
and an overneath where a spirit moved—free—mind without weight over
weight without mind. Remember our night at Seabright? The blackened tuna?
We didn't get what we dreamed about but what we got was good. What's real
breaks the legs of thoughts, brings tears, and serves food with hot sauces. We ate what
the waiter brought and a hundred dances hid inside the spicy crust,
half a dozen margaritas bloomed in our brains, and the skinny-dip
we took in full moon-lit obsidian was the highlight of our month.
Your 'freedom' would have brought us just the grilled fish that we ordered—rare, fresh,
but without the clarity of unintended consequences, dead."
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 01:43:58 PM » by Tiko Lewis
bravo.  a wonderful
journey.  thanks for
penning it.

as one poet said,
'a mirror of the mirror'.
              - Ruth Stone

i think this is ready
for submit, and
beyond.

tiko


tiko
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...i don't eat jelly beans afterward.

  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 02:12:02 PM » by StellaR


good stuff, Tom
enjoyed reading


Stella
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 03:04:15 PM » by Lynn Doiron
enjoyed for the most part.  a tad disappointed with the sweat f the brow after such a fine journey.

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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 10:04:04 PM » by Tom Riordan
Tiko and Stella and Lynn, thank you all very much for reading and reacting. I do agree, Lynn, about the end, and am working toward something stronger there. Tom
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The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing
but an abstraction. Once you give it definition, edges enter
the picture. Genesis describes a time when there only was water
and an overneath where a spirit moved—free—mind without weight over
weight without mind. Remember our time at Seabright with blackened tuna?
We didn't get what we dreamed about, but what we got was good. What's real
breaks the legs of thoughts, brings tears, and serves food with hot sauces. We ate what
the waiter brought and rejoiced because a hundred dances hid inside
the spicy crust, half a dozen margaritas blossomed, and our swim
later in full moon lit obsidian was the highlight of the month.
Your “freedom” would have brought us just the grilled fish that we ordered—rare, fresh,
but without the unintended consequences, ultimately dead.

The age of reason's when we learn that getting what we want isn't how
life works, or ought to. We now learn the pleasures of working the corners,
finding the buried, and weathering trouble. That's where clarity lies.
The world is one thing, we're another—we live by the sweat of our brow.
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 01:46:30 AM » by cherylleverette
Tom, I don't think you should change it.  Personally, I'm roughing some hardness these days, and I'd have a read a fortnight to read 'What's real breaks the legs of thoughts, brings tears...' cause that's where I'm at right now--facing reality, and it's by the sweat of my brow.

The last stanza is good, and very meaningful,
cheryl

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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 08:51:58 AM » by Tom Riordan
thank you Cheryl. I'm hoping the "sweat of our brow" still echoes in "blade of our plow", but that the latter phrase also hews to the image it follows better. let's see.
I'm glad some of the other lines resonate with you, though wish it were under better circumstances. Tom
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 09:05:50 AM » by Tom Riordan
to submit
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 09:06:03 AM » by cherylleverette
Blade of our plow is good too.  As long as it's hard work you're talking about, I'm with ya'.

cheryl

I think brow just seemed to fit because that's where the 'mind' is.


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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 09:58:24 AM » by Tom Riordan
Thanks. I hate that when someone says they like something particulary but then you feel like you should change it anyway. Tom
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 02:07:48 AM » by Tiko Lewis
yep, it's that time!

to picks.

tiko
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2010, 08:45:58 AM » by Tom Riordan
Hey, thank you, Tiko! Tom
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2010, 09:42:25 AM » by silent lotus
dear Tom

i like the subtlety of your choice to take the spacing out of Sea Bright

Seabright has an interesting inward and outward turn to it.

silent lotus

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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 10:57:46 AM » by Tom Riordan
You give me too much credit, Silent, for which I thank you. Really, I just thought that "Sea Bright with blackened tuna" made too much of Bright/blackened, to the detriment on the narrative at that point. Such a wonderful name anyway you spell it. Tom
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2010, 11:13:16 AM » by silent lotus
You give me too much credit, Silent, for which I thank you. Really, I just thought that "Sea Bright with blackened tuna" made too much of Bright/blackened, to the detriment on the narrative at that point. Such a wonderful name anyway you spell it. Tom


dear Tom

well this could turn into a real New Jersey folk lore kind of thing......
maybe by next year at the Dodge Poetry Festival
there will be a fish on the menu
called 'seabright'


ocean ave beach smiles
silent lotus
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2010, 11:25:20 AM » by Tom Riordan
which reminds me, when is "silverbrite" season -- the one affordable wild fresh salmon?
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2010, 11:31:50 AM » by milner place
Like it much, Tom, but think it works without that last stanza.

milner
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  Re: 32. “The so-called freedom you're constantly blabbering about is nothing”
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2010, 11:38:28 AM » by Tom Riordan
You're absolutely right, Milner, thank you.
There a few revisions in S1 to cut S2, but will get to work on that as soon as I can.
Tom
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