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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 03:53:00 AM » by bodkin
Ian, tks for your generous reply.  I'm afraid to change the lines -- may muddle what's olive velvet.  Know what I mean? 


I thought I did... but now I think I don't.  What do you mean?

Ian
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 10:22:59 AM » by Lynn Doiron
cheryl -- what if you use 'fallen' as title and 'stillborn' where you've used fallen in L2 [tiko's suggesiton]   
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 11:04:53 AM » by Tiko Lewis
cheryl -- what if you use 'fallen' as title and 'stillborn' where you've used fallen in L2 [tiko's suggesiton]   

excellent notion!!!
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010, 11:57:37 AM » by cherylleverette
Ok, changed now.  Has more meaning now.  I was at first concerned about the sound, but stark and stillborn sound fine.

Thanks very much.

Ian, what I meant was that I wanted to make sure I was saying the pecans were covered in olive velvet.  Hope that makes sense.

Thank you,
cheryl

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  Re: fallen
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2010, 12:49:15 PM » by Tiko Lewis
to picks.
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2010, 04:12:26 PM » by bodkin
Ah, the literal meaning -- that is what I thought you meant!  I was suddenly worried I was missing something symbolic / metaphorical, I do that...  I say nice poem with trees and oceans and the poet says "it's about my first wife!"

I don't think that reversing the lines will confuse...  if you were particularly worried, you could put a colon or dash at the end of the new middle line.

Just a thought.

Ian
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2010, 01:01:48 AM » by cherylleverette
to picks.

Tiko, thank you so much.

cheryl

Ian, thank you as well for your suggestions.

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  Re: fallen
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2010, 09:22:17 PM » by Tom Riordan

stark white pavement
three stillborn pecans
wrapped in olive velvet
L2-3's echo of "the newborn wrapped in swaddling clothes" makes this poem so rich to me.
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2010, 07:11:14 PM » by cherylleverette
What a wonderful thought.  Thank you, Tom.

cheryl
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