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  Poetry Circle Etiquette
« on: August 07, 2006, 03:48:34 PM » by Laura Nelson
I am making a concerted effort to read and comment on the works of others.  On other sites I found many poets only posting poems and not taking the time to critique others.  A huge no-no in my book. 

I'm wondering if Poetry Circle has either a written or unwritten rule about the number of critiques one should give for each poem he or she posts?  Or, should one wait a certain amount of time between posting poems?  I want to make sure I'm contrributing properly to this remarkable forum.

Thanks everyone!
Laura Nelson
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 06:38:23 PM » by Jay Dougherty
No such rules regarding commenting versus posting so far, Laura. Rules tend to invite "rules police," in my experience. But I think your suggestion that folks should take the time to comment is a good one. Give what you hope to get.

The signup agreement has been amended, however, to include this bit of text in the front:

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is a forum of and for advanced poets. We therefore encourage you to sign up using your real name, the pen name by which you are widely known, or the pen name by which you would like to be widely known. Changing your user name at a later time can be cumbersome. Using a fanciful user name will not endear you to the other writers who post here.

After signing up, you can change the user name that other members see by clilcking Profile, Account Related Settings, changing the value in the Name field, and then clicking Change Profile. You will still have to log on to the site using the user name that you originally chose, however. If you'd like to start over entirely, you can create a new account on the site. Existing accounts will not be deleted, however.

Anyone can sign up to submit poems here, but we do have a rejection system in place for work that we feel does not meet the standards of the site. You will typically be notified if a poem or prose work you have submitted has been rejected, but a specific reason for the rejection may not be given, as the volume of work we receive often does not allow for individual responses.


There are some "rules" there, I suppose.
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2007, 02:55:14 AM » by Brian Price
can we use foul language in our poetry. I find that my passion is confirmed in this at some times
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 11:18:41 PM » by Brian Price
I was just wondering if there was some way that when someone sends one of my poems to the workshop or the (yuck) rejection board they can have the courtesy to let me know why. Is that to much to ask? i don't think it is unreasonable. I feel that when they don't comment on the situation it is almost dishonorable or at least very rude. THX BRIAN price
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2007, 11:36:08 PM » by joseph lofgren
agreed. we've been discussing this point elsewhere as well, Brian. but, whatever. shit happens, arguments only bring friction. best to stay on the outside...repeat along the margins.

--cabernet
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 08:13:27 AM » by Jay Dougherty
I was just wondering if there was some way that when someone sends one of my poems to the workshop or the (yuck) rejection board they can have the courtesy to let me know why. Is that to much to ask?

It actually may be too much to ask. No one involved in running this site is paid for the effort. It's run very much as a labor of love, like most literary journals, but busier. And how many literary journals have sent you hand-written rejection notes with explanations about why your work was rejected?

 
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 10:16:14 AM » by brian_edwards
I think this thread is worthy of a fresh airing from time to time, as a reminder of the importance of commenting on others' work.
Hey look at me -- I'm a selfappointed poh--leese--man.

Oi, get your hands off my nightstick, bitches . . .

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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 11:18:58 AM » by jamesthomashoward
nee-naw nee-naw.
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 03:59:41 AM » by Paul Squires
There are two reasons I don't comment on the poetry here. Firstly I don't feel qualified to say much more than I like it or I couldn't understand it. Those are usually my only opinions. Secondly I like to follow a poet along for a while before I make any kind of commentary, most poems are best understood as part of an overall body of work.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 11:03:08 AM » by Lavonne Westbrooks
Both "I like it," and I couldn't understand it," are valuable pieces of information to a poet.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 01:27:52 PM » by Shari-Lyn McArthur
I concur with Lavonne, and will go as far to say that those are perhaps the two MOST valuable pieces of information a reader could offer. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 01:33:20 PM » by milner place
Add 'it's boring' to that, to make three, and I concur.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 01:59:11 PM » by Tom Riordan
Agree with Milner, but "I was bored" is both more accurate and humane. Great Poems follow these 3 stages during revision: first boring, then likeable, then incomprehensible. Using this simple list, writers can decide when to stop revising, depending on whether they want a Bad Poem, a Good Poem, or Great Poem.  --Tom
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 02:27:46 PM » by Shari-Lyn McArthur
Agree with Tom on the generally accepted expressional format of the Boringness Quotient.  (Although I have seen it notated in yet another exciting, yet palatable twist, "It bored me".
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  Re: Poetry Circle Etiquette
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 02:30:22 PM » by Shari-Lyn McArthur
I also appreciate hearing about typos and (potentially unintentional) spelling or grammatical errors in my writing.  It's not too risky a proposition to point out those sorts of things to a writer, and it certainly is very helpful to those who take pride in workmanship, or are perfectionists of the best worst sort.
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