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  Hell for leather
« on: November 05, 2009, 06:54:37 AM » by milner place
He found the brown shoes on the verge
beside the Rochdale Road up on the moor.

Who’d dump a pair of shoes there with no feet?
A sailor from Lithuania? Plumber outward bound
for Blackpool for an august week? A lover
looking for another half? A drunken shepherd
on a spree? A hard man on his way to death?

Shoes bear the scars of life, their soles
know all the ginnels, cobbles, grass, the mud,
rugs, lino, pavements, slime that clasps the rain;
so many paces in the hunt, the chase that pumps
the heart, slow step of sorrow, stamp of hate,
march of arrogance, stumble of blind faith.

A crow lumbered by, a curlew trilled. He took
the shoes home, chucked them in the bin.



(For a video of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5qIHBSSRE (The video's owner prevents external embedding) )

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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 07:12:47 AM » by silent lotus
dear Milner

so very powerful "Rochdale" 
it brings up so much imagery
and sets an important stage of awareness.

and a lovely touch, of using the sole as a soul teller.

a great bit of Hell

smiles
silent lotus

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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 08:11:27 AM » by StellaR


superb, milner
especially S3

Stella
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 08:14:32 AM » by Tom Riordan
S3 a magnificence, Milner: the balanced turn from what's underfoot to the what the foot's doing, turning with great "slime that clasps the rain" with its counterpart later in "stumble of blind faith." A rich, rich meal.
All else smooth and good to the ear, with one tiny distraction in S2, the absence of "a" at "Plumber", where it has been provided in all the sister phrases. (Love the way the "hard man" line finishes this.) -Tom
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 09:22:20 AM » by milner place
Thanks SL, Stella, Tom. That 'a' is missing from 'plumber' largely for reasons of rhythm, but also because it came naturally that way.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 03:14:16 PM » by milner place
I was moved to post this because I've just seen a wonderful short film of it made by director David Wharton. After getting his permission, I hope to be able to send a compressed version for posting on the site (if I can figure out how). It can be seen on the this link, but on my computer it takes about half an hour to download a film that lasts but a few minutes. If you've nothing to do, then you might just try it whilst writing another poem!
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=YkxJK3BQYWJqY3J2Wmc9PQ

milner
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 10:06:06 PM » by larry jordan
If you titled this "Rochdale Road Up On The Moor" you coud drop the the first sentence and open it with that wondeful line:
Who'd dump...

larry
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 07:22:39 AM » by milner place
Get your point, Larry. This raises an interesting quandary. As the poem has been published in a mag and a collection, and has also been recently used as a small film, should one start making changes? Is it worth it? Is the poem worthy it? For posterity, so that some student seeking a thesis might note the alteration and so could make a fine point of the depth of his/her knowkedge of an obscure 20/21st century poet, whose existence has been dug up by chance from some archives? Jesus wept, and a tear in my eye. Sorrow or laughter? Doon't mind me, thanks.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 01:15:53 PM » by larry jordan
I'd leave it alone. There are too many other fish. It works as it is and does what it is supposed to do. We could rewrite our work forever, especially the work that funtions in the language and not in its signifiers. When the work takes on the life of the world, the aboutness of it takes over. That student blowing the dust off the volume containing Hell for Leather will just have to make it up since he's going to anyway. The writing of history is the real fiction.
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 03:28:58 PM » by David C. Man
Wow, it's really grim up north, in't it? I like this a lot. Great details, and a fantastic Lancastrian word in "ginnels". Where on earth did that come from, Milner? Your past or an ancestor's?

My only criticism is the off-hand, almost throwaway (see what I did there?) ending. I know that's probably the effect you're going for, but I think the poem deserves something better. My opinion only.

Cheers

David
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 03:37:18 PM » by milner place
Thanks, Larry. You're right, it's not worth the bother. Never mind history, I doubt anyone can really write an autobiography that approaches real veracity. I'm pretty sure I couldn't, which is one reason I've rejected the idea that many have proposed I should undertake. It's likely we can get nearer to the truth through our fictions, prose or poetry.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 03:47:42 PM » by milner place
Thanks, David. Ginnels exist on this side of the Pennines too, certainly in the West Riding (that was). In the old North Riding, where I was spewed out, they'd be snickets, more likely.

I guess, as I've mentioned in previous comments, I'm stuck with this version now, for good or ill, throwaway ending included.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 04:05:45 PM » by Lavonne Westbrooks
Milner, I found the little film riveting for all it's brevity. Who ever produced it had a touch of genius because everything about it enhanced your reading of the poem. It is perfect as is.
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  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 04:59:55 PM » by milner place
I agree with you, Lavonne, on the quality. It's not my voice though, but someone called Lee Brennan. In fact I'd no part in this, wasn't even aware of which poem had been chosen until I saw the result. It's part of a project, making films inspired by poems, organised by Ra Page, editor of Comma Press. The maker, David Wharton, says he'd like to do some more. I'd certainly trust him after seeing this. Glad you enjoyed it.

milner
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'Caminante, no hay camino,
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- Antonio Machado

Latest book 'naked invitation' $15 or £10, p&p inc milnerplace@msn.com

  Re: Hell for leather
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 05:07:58 PM » by Lavonne Westbrooks
You know I thought the voice sounded different but put it down to the recording. Loved it never the less.
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