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  There/Here
« on: August 19, 2009, 01:22:37 PM » by Lynn Doiron
There is the gray almost white,
the bluer gray,
and a boat’s wake,

there is the boat disappearing,
and kelp like wide blemishes
floating pale skin.

There is my waffled skin,
the shore with its sand,
breathing holes that could hold yellow pencils.

Instead, there is life in the grit,
air channeled down,
not graphite scripts,

yet there is conversation
with receding foam or tides’ inbound flows –
as if these bare feet on this hillside find
those vibrations,

and what breathes in the sea,
what floats water’s skin,
what edges out and back in
is here, where I listen.


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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 02:06:57 PM » by milner place
Liking this much, Lynn. Maybe you should look at those repetitiions in the first few lines. The repeated 'there's are fine, but with those I'm not sure that the repeated 'white' and 'boat' work so well. Just a thought.

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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 02:28:12 PM » by Lynn Doiron
thanks, milner.  i think you may be right.  i need to let it settle a bit and re-read and see if i still find reasoning for the over-abundance of repetitions! 
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 06:42:42 PM » by Kevin Jackson
lynn, like this a lot and need time to tune in to it.... particularly the repetitions and the in and out course...

i will be back,   k
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 08:51:34 PM » by Tom Riordan
Lynn, at top of 2nd stanza, as I read, "hill" rhymed "view." That's a sure sign to me that this poem has fine, fine music. Tom
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 09:15:58 PM » by Lynn Doiron
There is the gray almost white, there is the bluer gray and a boat’s wake of white,
there is the boat disappearing from sight and the kelp like wide blemishes floating pale skin,
there is my waffled skin,
there is the shore with its sand, breathing holes that could hold yellow pencils,
but there is life in the grit, air channeled down, not graphite scripts,
not words of communication,
yet there is conversation with receding foam or tides’ inbound flows –
as if these bare feet on this hillside find those vibrations,
and what breathes in the sea, what floats water’s skin,
what edges out and comes back in
is here where I listen.

In this place, I have not walked the beach since the absence of my friend.
What is here is hard tile and cold glass with a view.
Here is the vision and the imagined vision,
here, a witness who abides on one distant hill
with yellow pencils, with pulverized words tumbled faint as the line there
where sky and ocean meld . . .
But below on the shore where it bends like a smile, or makes its extended reach,
sand the color of yellow-white scorpions, in-ground creatures
wait and breathe,
as if they are me,
me with bare toes holding to echoes
here, where air channels up
and translations are meet.



I'm considering swapping out some modifiers, switching positions on pulverized and yellow for 'pulverized pencils and yellow words' --- haven't made the switch, but thought if I made that alteration or others, the original would be here for comps.

Thanks, Tom.
And Kevin, I look forward to your return!

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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 01:47:22 PM » by Lynn Doiron
Two months since I last gave this one a look.  Have chopped and cut.  Thanks for earlier thoughts on this one.

lynn
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 01:54:15 PM » by ca.leverette
There is the gray almost white,
the bluer gray,
and a boat’s wake,

there is the boat disappearing,
and kelp like wide blemishes
floating pale skin.

There is my waffled skin,
the shore with its sand,
breathing holes that could hold yellow pencils.

Instead, there is life in the grit,
air channeled down,
not graphite scripts,

yet there is conversation
with receding foam or tides’ inbound flows –
as if these bare feet on this hillside find
those vibrations,

and what breathes in the sea,
what floats water’s skin,
what edges out and back in
is here where I listen.




Lynn, don't know if I missed this one, or just didn't comment.  I love it.  Love the way you describe color and skin, other things -- that's exactly the way I think of those things in my mind.  Love it when that happens because then I know I must be at least partly ok.

Also like the way you use 'there is' -- in fact lemme take a moment to say this about your writing.  I so enjoy the fact that to some you may bend the rules in your writing, but you do it anyway, and in the end you have a beautiful masterpiece.  Makes me wonder about the editing process, you know?  Yet, I couldn't write without it.  Maybe you're just at that place where you know how to eat the meat and leave the bones.

I'm certainly not there yet.

This will be a favorite, Lynn.
Thanks,
cheryl
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 02:05:13 PM » by larry jordan
Hey,

There is a certain experience in the musings of the silent voice in us that casts its net around the words 'there is'. But the use of it doesn't quite hum in the tone of 'longing'. I wonder if there is another route to that sense?

The ocean fills us.

larry
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 07:39:27 PM » by Lynn Doiron
The ocean is us

?
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2009, 09:43:58 AM » by Casey Quinn
lynn, really enjoyed this one- painting a really nice scene and flows wonderfully. would you consider putting a comma in the last line after "here" - to me, would help the read a little just imo - nice poem
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2009, 12:30:28 PM » by StellaR


love this, Lynn
took me right there

Stella
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2009, 04:06:00 PM » by Lynn Doiron
casey -- the comma is added.  thanks.  good call.
cheryl -- i missed your earlier comment.  thank you!  the original post of this was one of my writes "after" being inspired by another poet, another poem.  Time (a couple months) away from it helped me to see what felt right and what felt (I dunno) sort of not right.  I'm happier with current version; another couple months may find me thinking otherwise.  Glad you enjoyed -- and thanks again for comments.
stella -- thanks for looking and comment.  appreciate it.

lynn
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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 11:41:18 AM » by Rick Stansberger
I like how the rhymes thicken at the end of the poem so that the last 3 lines end with the resonant n sound.  Very nice.  Very listen-y.

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  Re: There/Here
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 08:47:23 PM » by Lynn Doiron
thank you kind sir.
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