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  Tongue and Groove
« on: February 13, 2009, 11:03:15 AM » by Timothy Juhl
Little red pricktease
if you ask me.
Ass like a basket of berries
high skippin’ along.

and does she smell good
like warm milk

                    and something else
something raw

sets my teeth on edge.

I gotta follow this
all jumpy and shit
figurin’ my next move
                     my next line

she’s just about
makin’ me crazy
my lines get all mixed up.

My chance
is a bend in the path
wild with hunger
I sidle up to her
                    line dammit
                    my line

Red, I wanna fuck you all night.

She don’t miss a beat
          cool as May cherries
          hot as the devil
          she shakes her junk

Stick to the script, baby
you gotta eat me first.


And I am one done puppy.
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 11:21:42 AM » by brian_edwards
Little red pricktease
if you ask me.
Ass like a basket of berries
high skippin’ along.

and does she smell good
like warm milk

                    and something else
something raw

sets my teeth on edge.

I gotta follow this
all jumpy and shit
figurin’ my next move
                     my next line

she’s just about
makin’ me crazy
my lines get all mixed up.

My chance
is a bend in the path
wild with hunger
I sidle up to her
                    line dammit
                    my line

Red, I wanna fuck you all night.

She don’t miss a beat
          cool as May cherries
          hot as the devil
          she shakes her junk

Stick to the script, baby
you gotta eat me first.

And I am one done puppy.




Tim, great! At last! What's the point in finally having a queer editor if we aint gonna get the chance to critique some queer stuff? (Not that every gay person has to write about "The Gay Experience" etc or that anyone else has to do anything, ever . . . . just an observation . . . )

I love the physical movement through the first 9 lines.

I highlighted the areas that I thought maybe needed some tightening, on a first read, but really need to come back, after sleep.

B.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 11:23:27 AM » by Timothy Juhl
Thanks for the read, Brian.  It's just a goofy poem written at the Church of Whitman last weekend.  Figured it was good for VD.

Get some sleep, my friend.

Tim
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 12:21:15 PM » by Tom Riordan
It's simply magnificent, Tim.
The one off note to my ear is the bit of straight exposition here:
"My chance
is a bend in the path
wild with hunger
I sidle up to her"
-Tom
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 01:33:03 PM » by Lynn Doiron
No nits here.  Strong stuff, Tim.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 01:46:16 PM » by Sherry Thrasher
You posted it, you sly old fox!  I laugh my basket of berries off every time I read this.  You decided against "thigh skippin along ?"  Regardless, this is good writing.  I was up half the night trying to come off that second shot of espresso.  I'm starting to have luggage under my eyes.  See you Sunday.  BTW, Chris Salerno is reading in the near future.  He was my 289 professor and another one to undress.  ;D

Ta da,
Sherry
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 04:20:19 PM » by Timothy Juhl
Sly fox, Sherry?  Isn't that another fairytale?  It's kind of grown on me after a couple of rewrites.

Tom & Lynn, thanks for the read, and to think I nearly dropped the line 'wild with hunger'.  This is why I have to read everything out loud.

And Brian, I hope you slept well and if you only knew the volumes of gay poetry I have.  We write what we know.  Or who we know.

Yours,
Tim
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 08:08:13 AM » by Sherry Thrasher
I don't understand why Cupid was chosen to represent Valentine's Day.  When I think about romance, the last thing on my mind is a short, chubby toddler coming at me with a weapon.  ~Author Unknown


Happy Valentine's Day!

Sherry
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 09:18:30 AM » by Tom Riordan
Open your mind.
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 09:23:27 AM » by brian_edwards
Tim, I think what got my ear before was the repetition of line(s) in the area I highlighted. Maybe a tweak there? I'm nit-picking.

Btw, I love Auden, Ginsberg and Gunn, but I guess your library is different from mine. I'm always open to reading lists.

B.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 11:00:42 AM » by Timothy Juhl
Hey Brian,

Interesting take on the 'lines', I've reread and reworked, but I still come back to those befuddled pleas of a man/wolf afraid of rejection and desperately trying to come up with an opening line.  I guess this is more of a barroom poem.

As for gay poets, of course, Auden and Gunn are favs, but I'm also a great fan of Mark Doty's work and Timothy Liu (I think that's his correct name...I'm blanking).  While I read these poets, I wouldn't necessarily consider them my influences.  Billy Collins, Peter Meinke, Ted Kooser, Stanley Kunitz and my newest fav, Joseph Millar are poets whose language I really admire.

Your turn...give me your influences.

Tim
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2009, 02:37:01 PM » by Tiko Lewis
I like this a ton.  I've been skirting around these images in my own depictions, and it is wonderful to see them embraced by you.  It's encouraging, and a wonderful read.  It's raw, base, human.  I also love that you gave the woman power.  Too often, men relegate the woman to the roll of prop in their tales.  The fact that she was directing was very cool.
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2009, 06:01:25 PM » by StellaR


tres bien!

Stella
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2009, 07:17:08 PM » by Kevin Jackson
Fab poem Tim, love its vigour and clarity.
One bump for me, for a poem where every line, word adds, I can't see that the last line adds anything.  And it switches the focus from the feisty female.
Just a late Saturday night thought....
k
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2009, 07:21:21 PM » by maggie flanagan-wilkie
What happened to the 'thighs'?????? ;)

I'm still for round-filing that last line.

Maggie
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 07:56:11 PM » by brian_edwards

As for gay poets, of course, Auden and Gunn are favs, but I'm also a great fan of Mark Doty's work and Timothy Liu (I think that's his correct name...I'm blanking).  While I read these poets, I wouldn't necessarily consider them my influences.  Billy Collins, Peter Meinke, Ted Kooser, Stanley Kunitz and my newest fav, Joseph Millar are poets whose language I really admire.

Your turn...give me your influences.

Tim


Well that's the start of a whole new thread Tim . . .

I don't want to get my wrist slapped for digressing too much off topic, so I'll be brief. Ginsberg, Mags Atwood, Ray Carver, Larkin, Plath, Heaney, Basho, Rimbaud, Z Herbert, Collins and Kooser, Phil Levine, Lynn Doiron. I could go on and on. My first love was film, so lots of influence there too . . . .

B.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2009, 08:01:34 PM » by Lavonne Westbrooks
"And Brian, I hope you slept well and if you only knew the volumes of gay poetry I have.  We write what we know.  Or who we know."

Or what we want to know.

I like it, strong and fierce.

Picked.
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2009, 11:54:55 PM » by MichelleBethCronk
I find it strange that no one mentioned that fantastic use of title - I'm sure they were all thinking about it - excellent - xo M
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2009, 12:43:09 AM » by Timothy Juhl
Lavonne, thanks for the pick.  It did my heart good after a rough night at work tonight.  And Michelle, thanks for the nod to the title...I spent most of an afternoon pouring through my vast collection of books about words hoping something would strike me.

And Mags...somehow I just couldn't get my head around the unseemly sound of 'thighs skippin'.  You know I love you though!

I want to know more of your list Brian...Rimbaud was an early influence for me and that led me to Leonard Cohen.

Tim
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2009, 08:56:38 AM » by brian_edwards
Also a Cohen fan, but not via Rimbaud. Young Arthur led me to Jim Morrison.

Hey, maybe this should be a discussion thread --- non-poetry influences . . .

B.

BTW, title didn't go unnoticed here either. Very nice.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2009, 11:27:41 PM » by Tiko Lewis
Missing Tim.

Tiko
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 07:23:50 AM » by ca.leverette
Ha!  Much enjoyed.  Tellin' it like it is, T.

lol

cheryl
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 09:15:57 AM » by larry jordan
These subjects carry enough bang that often they simply roll over what ever might be going on in the writing. There is a nice touch to this despite the in your face context. I agree with Maggie about the last line, it's a perfomance kind of strut, a deep bow.

It's worth glaring from the front page for a while.

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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 10:11:48 AM » by Tom Riordan
Congrats, Tim! Great fun to read this again. Tom
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 11:24:10 PM » by Lavonne Westbrooks
These subjects carry enough bang that often they simply roll over what ever might be going on in the writing. There is a nice touch to this despite the in your face context. I agree with Maggie about the last line, it's a perfomance kind of strut, a deep bow.

It's worth glaring from the front page for a while.

larry

My opinion here is influenced by my recent reading, i.e. Shakespeare, who was known for that in-your-face performance deserving that deep bow at the end.

Bravo!
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2009, 09:39:40 AM » by Sherry Thrasher
All about the fairy tale right now being neck deep into Liz Lochhead and this really is a terrific read. Great pacing like a hungary (horny) wolf.  We need Whitman. Enjoyed seeing you last night.

Sherry
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2009, 09:52:24 AM » by Timothy Juhl
Hey all,

I've been consumed again by retail hell and finally logged into PC and was surprised to see my poem sitting on the Front Page.  I am flattered again that someone deigned it so worthy. 

Humbly yours,
Tim
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2009, 05:05:21 PM » by milner place
Really refreshing to see this on the front page, Tim, and congratulations to you, and to Larry for the pick.

milner
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2009, 09:38:41 AM » by StellaR


congratulations, Tim!

Stella
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2009, 11:32:25 AM » by Jill Winkowski
Strong voice, tempo. Love it. Thanks, Timothy
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  Re: Tongue and Groove
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2009, 05:52:47 PM » by Lynn Doiron
Missed this while up Front, but wanted to say Yay! although a little late . . .

lynn
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