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  they don't get it, do they?
« on: January 09, 2009, 09:02:40 AM » by John Yamrus
they don’t get it, do they?

not saying
more than
twenty words
to each other
the whole afternoon,
we planted and
hosed and
scrubbed
the entire yard,
getting the place
ready for summer.

when we were done,
your shoes
and jeans
were soaked…

my hands were sore
and my neck
was stiff.

we came in the house,
ate a salad
and fell asleep
in front of the tv.

this is the gift…

and i am
one of the few
lucky enough
to have solved
its mystery.
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 09:35:17 AM » by milner place
Love this one, John. Gonna be a pick, later.

milner
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 10:21:28 AM » by brian_edwards
Thought you might Mil.

Far Far FAR stronger if ended at gift.

Just an honest opinion John.

B.

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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 10:24:44 AM » by Rick Stansberger
I agree with both Milner and Brian, though it's nice to end a poem with "mystery."

Rick
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 10:47:22 AM » by Tom Riordan
they don’t get it, do they?

not saying
more than
twenty words
to each other
the whole afternoon,
we planted and
hosed and
scrubbed
the entire yard,
getting the place
ready for summer.

when we were done,
your shoes
and jeans
were soaked…

my hands were sore
and my neck
was stiff.

we came in the house,
ate a salad
and fell asleep
in front of the tv.

this is the gift…

and i am
one of the few
lucky enough
to have solved
its mystery.
Agree with Milner and Brian and Rick. Oh, we're ganging up now, John. Seriously, this is quite wonderful. Seriously, last S is flat (and title, I think, too). The "gift" in the penultimate stanza is, already, the ability to appreciate, right?--somebody else could do the same overt activities and write "this is the hell." So it's unnecessary, and anyway, why take credit for a gift? As to title, what does it matter whether other people appreciate their lives, marriages, whatever? That's maybe another poem. Keep the simple purity that is this one's calling card, IMHO. -Tom
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 01:47:54 PM » by Jess Miltner
i like how this ends, id say keep it as is.
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 04:17:55 PM » by milner place
Suiting the action... up she goes.

milner
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 04:28:57 PM » by John Yamrus
thank you, Milner! 
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 03:07:11 AM » by cyprus knees
Oh. I like this quite a bit. Such love and easiness. Really lovely.
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 09:16:02 AM » by John Yamrus
i hate explaining myself.  i really really do.  it sounds egotistical and there's no safe way to get around it.  in doing so, one always looks bad.  but if i ended the poem at "gift" it'd be a nice safe normal poem.  tacking on the last stanza makes it mine.
john
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 09:59:45 AM » by silent lotus
i
hate
explaining myself

i really really do

it sounds egotistical

and

there's no safe way                            to get   around      it

in doing so, one always looks bad

but if i ended the poem at "gift"

it'd be nice and safe

tacking on
the last stanza

makes it

mine


John Yamrus



Hope you do not mind John ....i just liked your reply.....smiles  silent lotus
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 10:29:56 AM » by brian_edwards
tacking on the last stanza makes it mine.
john

It certainly does John, won't argue with that.

Cheers.

B.
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 01:14:51 PM » by John Yamrus
thanks, Brian!  and Lotus...man, you beat me to it!
thanks.
john
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 03:12:46 PM » by Tom Riordan
I take back my suggestion about dropping the last S. This is more than a simple paean, and when John said the last S “makes it mine”, I think he means that it extends the poem into one of his key themes.

“I left this turd” frankly and ironically asked the question “of what possible interest is to others is something that I value simply because it came from me?” This poem goes further, I see, in its S. The N says “full enjoyment of these deep, simple things is a great gift—but wait, what I really enjoy too is feeling superior to other people who just don’t get it like I do!” The persistent presence of narcissistic thinking even in the full enjoyment of other “more advanced” pleasures is a truth and a good theme. Took me a while... -Tom
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  Re: they don't get it, do they?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 03:14:55 AM » by Vasile Baghiu
Simply I feel this poem deserves more chances to be red, I mean to stay a while on the “front page”.
Vasile
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