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The Dead Fox by Degas
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November 26, 2008, 08:59:50 PM »
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Lynn Doiron
The title of the painting is The Dead Fox, and if I stood before the canvas in some spacious room of a foreign land -- at a national gallery, or upstairs in a villa, the painting hung, perhaps, on a bedroom wall papered with green velvet -- then I imagine I might find red dullness in the slitted eyes, a loss of light brought on by strokes Degas brought to bear.
But I am not standing in London, or Madrid, not in a villa overlooking a blue-violet bay at dawn with a man, half-covered by Egyptian cotton sheets, white sheets darkened blue-violet as the light’s still coming on, who half sleeps, half wakes, half urges me to come back to him in bed. No. I am studying a small screen lit with pixels in a small room in this house. I am looking through the trees beyond a still, fore-fronted fox, imagining the path, last night’s dew still on the verdant grass, imagining the light Degas split, near dead center, with a sapling there – the split light like a chapel window above where darkness ends.
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Re: The Dead Fox by Degas
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November 26, 2008, 09:20:27 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Very challenging, provocative, surprising, Lynn. Only hitch for me, reading it how I am reading it, is when you call the fox "dead" in S2. In S1, you say you might have been able to see that it was dead if you were in the bedroom etc.; but you're not. What I love about the poem is the apparent reversal: if you were in this lusher, sexier place you would see the death, but in the place you actually are in, you do not: you are"imagining the path and last night’s dew still on the verdant grass, imagining the light Degas split, near dead center, with a sapling there – the split light like a chapel window above where darkness ends." Wow. Tom
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November 26, 2008, 10:43:22 PM »
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Lynn Doiron
I took out the dead usages and reworded the areas in both stanzas. Also got rid of some stray html code I hadn't realized was there. Thanks for your comments -- they opened my eyes to the problem you encountered. This is what I sometimes do when I need a subject to write about, or toward, never quite sure of where an object will take me. Last night it was a pear on my counter, today a dead fox by a dead painter. Am pleased parts worked for you. Thanks for comments, for stopping by ...
lynn
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November 27, 2008, 05:09:18 AM »
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Sue Lozynskyj
Lynn, this is stunning, no nits for me. I love the little journeys in the writing, how they criss-cross like animal tracks. It's a piece that grounds me. Thank you. Love Sue
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November 27, 2008, 08:21:25 AM »
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Mike Barrett
Great, Lynn. I love how you take (in some cases) rather obscure subjects and give them your complete devotion whilst still retaining such a clear voice of your own.
I thought you may be interested in the following from an article by Daniel Burden about site-specificity in art:
"The work is made in a specific place... it is there that it was ordered, forged, and only there it may be truly said to be seen in place. The following contradiction becomes apparent: it is impossible by definition for a work to be seen in place; still, the place where we see it influences the work even more than the place in which it was made and from which it has been cast out"
You can read the first page of it at the following address, but I think you have to sign up to read the whole thing:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/778628
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November 27, 2008, 08:33:13 AM »
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brian_edwards
It took me a few reads to get through the first stanza, but the second, wow -- just about the best ekphrastic writing I can remember reading for some time. Astonishing really.
B.
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November 27, 2008, 09:35:49 AM »
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Jill Winkowski
Really delicate in its self-awareness. Nice how the reader gets ushered into the art.
I like it, Lynn
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Re: The Dead Fox by Degas
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November 27, 2008, 10:47:09 AM »
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Lynn Doiron
Thanks, Sue! Yes, the little journeys, the side trips ... when I wrote S1 and mentioned national galleries and villas, I had no idea that in S2 I'd put a man in a bed with the painting too. Very lucky, for me, the imagined crisscrossing stories held. Really appreciate your kind words.
Mike -- what a great quote from Daniel Burden on site specificity, almost as if Daniel was inside my head, or I was inside his, when I wrote this last night. Thanks for the link -- I will go there. And thanks for comments. Much appreciated.
B. -- I did fix some thing in S1 after Tom's comments regarding confusion on use of "dead" -- Now, I suppose I can't see the forest for the trees, so could you expand on the difficulties you're having with S1? Thanks. And thanks for the nice words, too.
Jill -- thank you. Glad you liked it.
best regards to all,
lynn
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Re: The Dead Fox by Degas
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November 27, 2008, 06:24:29 PM »
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brian_edwards
Lynn, I found the first stanza too wordy and expository when I first read. I have to say, it bothered me less on subsequent reads, bothers me less today, but I'll tinker a little anyway, if nothing else to try to help you see the forest . . .
The title of the painting is The Dead Fox although the
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ixels make the lack of life difficult to see
, but i
f I stood before the canvas in
some national
a
gallery somewhere, or
upstairs
in
a villa,
the painting
hung perhaps on a bedroom wall papered with green velvet,
then,
I imagine I might find blue film over slitted eyes or a red dullness brought on by loss of light and the deft strokes Degas
would've
brought to bear.
OK, that's now quite a run-on sentence! Alternatively you could keep the period after see, like in your current version.
Hope this helps.
B.
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November 27, 2008, 11:22:59 PM »
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Lynn Doiron
Very nice pruning, Brian -- you give me a good model to consider. Thanks, much. lynn
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November 28, 2008, 01:23:26 PM »
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Sue Lozynskyj
Hang on though if you do that She's hung on the villa wall!!! you can't do that!
Although I like the rest of your topiary, brian :)
Love to both
Sue
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November 28, 2008, 03:06:19 PM »
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Lynn Doiron
Appreciate your look in again at this one, Sue. I'm giving this one a couple days [or longer] as is; not sure I want to lose the wordy reflectiveness of coming upon the painting via the internet and my coming to look closely at the details found there and in my imagination. Probably somewhere between a kind landscape artist's rendering and my own is where it will end up . . . but for now, will remain a bit weedy [or is that 'wordy'?]
thanks!
lynn
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November 28, 2008, 03:57:41 PM »
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Rick Stansberger
I like the "wordy reflectiveness" too, maybe the right tool to approach the lives of those who actually do wake up to such a picture on the opposite wall.
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Re: The Dead Fox by Degas
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November 28, 2008, 05:40:40 PM »
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Sue Lozynskyj
I've kept looking in Lynn, whenever there's a new post on it and I click and scroll down, I've forgotten I'll see the picture and it's a lovely treat.
I really like what you're doing and that you are thinking carefully about your edit because the balance in the peice is so fragile...
I'll be back again.
Sue
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November 28, 2008, 07:06:08 PM »
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brian_edwards
Yes, I understand the logic of the wordy reflection (The Logic of The Wordy Reflection - now there's a book title!)
but a little trim could help a lot, I think.
Look forward to a revision Lynn. Let me say again though, that this is great work, whatever you do.
B.
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